Greetings Folks, let’s have a very frank discussion. I am in WV and with a few minutes to write up a post I have been thinking about for quite a while. I did post a blog in December covering Grass Fed Goats – The Florida Myth (https://tinyurl.com/4fsydxfj) but there is also another question I get sometimes two or three times a week I need to cover which is “are your products organic”. So grab a cuppa of your favorite beverage and sit a spell. I promise, I tell you like it is. I do not apologize for that and hope you can appreciate my frankness, even if sometimes maybe NOT what you want to hear.
First, let’s talk organic, Organic, Certified Organic, non-certified organic, organic practices, organically raised – however you want to twist it. A lot of terms used that are “get your boots on because it is getting deep”. I don’t think people realize what they are asking when I get questioned if our products are organic. Certified Organic has many variables but the basic concept is stewardship of the land, using only OMRI (Organic Materials Review Institute) approved chemicals, and certification by a third party. There are farms with organic practices, but do not have certification, however, this is where the consumer must be savvy. Is this really true? If we were organic, the price of our milk/products would almost double. This is the major red flag. Same price or a dollar or so higher? Ask questions, a lot of questions. The question I pose to you is: Would you rather us go organic and cut out 90% of our market which would close our doors or would you rather we take the approach of no chemicals (the folks getting manure at our farm know we are a chemical free barn – with the exception of wasp spray) and continue to provide milk in the safest way we have learned?
Is the Walmart brand of milk the same price as the (big factory farm) Organic Milk on the shelf? Then how do you think we would do it as a small farm with no dairy subsidies like the big time dairies? We work on a 10-15% profit margin now and have been trying to absorb the rising costs of products to us that are necessary to producing a product from hay to containers and have suffered through increased prices on most everything the past few years on many items (milk, cheese, kefir, etc). We have had a 25-40% increase in the cost of containers alone over the past few years and close to 100% increase in our grass hay. I thought they may go down when diesel dropped but hanging tight at the higher price.
I see people out there saying “using organic practices”, “organically raised”, “non-certified organic”. With crops it is a smidge different so as a dairy farmer, I will address what I know best for now. Just for a comparison, our feed is right at $18 a 50lb bag. It is a feed that is milled from fresh natural grains by a small family run feed mill located in Dade City. Probably not non-gmo but none the less, the best we can obtain. Non-gmo? Ditto on the higher price of the grains. All organic is non-gmo but not all non-gmo is organic! Our feed contains a vitamin and mineral pack to add in valuable nutrients to make sure our goats (we do the same for chickens but will cover that in possibly another blog) get all the supplements they need for our locations/environment. We do not feed synthetics – one of the questions last week. Snickered a little at that one as people always think goats will eat anything – they don’t – but maybe they thought we were feeding plastic bottles or grocery bags???? Great recycling concept (and price reduction) but the goats may object! Organic feed runs in excess of $30 per bag – and that is a FORTY pound bag – 20% less than our current bags which equates to approx $.36 a pound for our feed but a whopping $.75 a pound for organic. Add in the cost of transport as most organic (if not all?) is trucked in from out of state and you have to travel the state to get pickups of it.
We go through approximately a ton of grain a week to feed everything from alpaca, emus, chickens, quail, ducks, geese, horses AND goats. Our feed bill is easily $500 plus a week. Add in grass hay and peanut hay and we see in excess of 5K a month to feed the farm – remember that doesn’t include electric (600+ monthly), water (3-400 monthly), repairs (varies) and containers (easily 700 monthly). There is no way we could sell enough products to cover 10K a month to buy organic feed. Please remember that we are “different” farmers. Our boys are only sold for pet and horse companions and when we do sell them after weaning, we lose money with the amount of milk that has gone into them. Our older does that are retired from the milkline remain on our property in C.A.L.F. (Caprine Assisted Living Facility) until the day they die. We do not believe in sending them off after giving us their babies and milk for so many years. By the way, we do the same with our hens. They deserve pampering. That costs us a lot of money but it is the right thing to do in our hearts.
Why mineral packs and vitamins? One very important supplement we add is selenium. Florida is a selenium deficient state with 95% of the state being deemed as having soil that is deficient in selenium. Selenium is very important to goats. All of our hay is produced in Florida (the majority of the time it is within 50 miles of the farm) and we must assume that the hay fields are on deficient soil. A deficiency can cause weak or un-thrifty kids with diarrhea and listlessness along with poor muscle development. For adults, one red flag on selenium deficiency is dulled/changing color coats and even hair loss. We give BoSe 2x yearly which is a veterinary form of selenium mixed with Vitamin B. Selenium alone can be toxic in high quantities. Vitamin E will nullify the toxic effects of the selenium and the mix makes the Vit E six times more effective. A wonderful synergistic effect!! That is just one example. A CERTIFIED large animal Nutritionist has approved our feed formula (also tweaked seasonally) which was a 20 yr project in the making. As part of the feed, we are basically giving our goats their “One A Day” vitamins. Do you give your children or do you take vitamins yourself?
Now let’s broaden our scope a bit. If the hay, environment, everything isn’t deemed organic, how can you claim to be organically raising your animals? For hay, the fields must not have been sprayed for at least 3 years. If you are a hay farmer, you understand that the nut weed and other weeks will move into the field and choke out the hay growing there. One hay farmer that didn’t want to spray went from a 12 acre field of hay to less than 9 acres of hay he could harvest withing 2 years. The weeds moved in from the perimeter and the hay was diminished. It is hard to make a living by not spraying and losing over 25% of your crop. Yes, there are alternatives but not alternatives that are economically feasible for the most part. Remember, rain will wash the herbicides off the leaves, plants and I have been reading that the roots will not adhere to the herbicides. I am not a scientist so I have to research as much as possible and rely on my research (read that as sifting through the propaganda) to find truth. Did you know that pressure treated wood can cause a farm to lose organic certification? For the most part, use of treated wood on your organic sites is considered an application of a prohibited material. Who would build a barn in Florida without pressure treated wood? Maybe if you were milling your own cedar or cypress but who has access to that?
For our animals, we always look at holistic first, when we can, and we do not give any lactating goats a chemical dewormer, opting for the copper bolus which sets up an environment in the stomach chambers inhospitable of parasites. We do use antibiotics as a last resort as 1) we do not want to cause a resistance due to overuse – the reason they were pulled off the sales shelves on June 11 of this year because of indiscriminate use by livestock owners and 2) once they have an antibiotic, they are no longer on the milkline and we adhere to triple the recommended withdrawal time by FARAD (Food Animal Residue Avoidance Databank). It is FARAD’s goal to provide expert advice to veterinarians, extension specialists, and livestock producers regarding extra-label drug use and contamination emergencies to prevent drug residues in meats, milk, and eggs. Depending on the situation, some of our goats may return to the milk line or will be pulled off for treatment and will not be used for milking until the next lactation (i.e. after a pregnancy). I drink this milk, am holistically fighting breast cancer for the last 2+ years, as well as raised my kids on it and we do not want chemical residues in the milk.
Please, do your research and do not accept things as written – from me or anyone else. We are very transparent at our farm. I am glad to answer any questions. After 15 plus years (yes, check with FDACS – we received our permit on August 17th, 2007) of selling goat milk, I think I have heard every last question that could be asked – then the next phone call comes in. Want to check how long someone has been in business? Look at the FDACS Permit Number. Ours is 1280 and the numbers increase the later the permit was approved. So if someone is permit number 3522, it would have been issued years later. The 4000s were issued near the 2017/2018 year per my conversation with FDACS yesterday. We were among one of the first raw milk dairies permitted in the state and have been working to set the standards for all that time!!
I hope this is “food for thought” for those who are looking around to buy raw milk or are one of our customers just to know more about our operation. Want to really know from the inside, be one of our volunteers. We do not host one time volunteers unless it is mentioned when we put out emergency calls. We need long term volunteers that can come at least once a week (possibly every other week) and take a specific task, learn it well and not require total supervision. We are looking for milkers for the farm which is a 6 month minimum commitment and offered a token gas allowance and Bright Future or Vet Assist hours. You do not have to be a teen, but good physical activity tolerance is needed. Interested, send me a DM. Thank you for reading!